bakedpotato

1 minute ago, Jouaram said:

I think what Danny says about you shooting uncanny cat gun at him is a big part of this, as it doesn't log. You haven't refuted this was the case yet so I'm assuming this is what happened?

I shot the uncanny cat gun at him right after the last damage log which why it dosnt show I killed him

if im not mistaken if I would of just done any damage to him with the uncanny cat gun It would show up, if I kill him it shows he offs himself 

I only came back 2 times like logs show and you can see right after the altercation with me that he instigated he went to the antlion boss. And you can see what time the sit was called which shows it was shortly after he damaged me as well

4 hours ago, Bakkula said:

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It doesn't matter that he instigated combat since he is raiding. You breaking NLR and killing him equates to an RDM kill. It would've made sense to not get warned for RDM if you weren't on NLR time. Seems you knew he was actively killing people in the bank.

This just screams bait, dude. You run in and hide behind the money? So if I was raiding Bank and saw you run in and hide behind the money then shot at you, you'd kill me? Just take the ban on the chin:

 

 

I have ran and hid behind the money multiple times, I usually will get killed and I don’t go back because I notice the raid going on.

when using the fg launcher shooting into the lobby of the bank you can’t even see what is going on in the bank so if I didn’t notice the advert raid wether I was at the pc or not, all I know if there was no bank base and everyone in the lobby is being blown up.

Nlr and rdm are 2 completely separate things even if I come back the rule states if you receive 1 damage you can kill the person who did it, funny how I didn’t do any damage to him until the 3rd time I received damage but it sounds like bait?

like I said before I didn’t argue my case because I can’t see logs and can’t see who initiated combat and or anything else so I was trusting what the admin said.

2 minutes ago, luxeray said:

seems to me like constantly rdming people who you believe to be okay with it (not the case sometimes) is just causing issues, especially considering this is 2 appeals of the same situation within a week. 

Id like others input first before making a judgement though. 

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Realistically yes it does cause problems but also this was not even a rdm case if it was just rdm it would have been valid and I wouldn’t be here. 
 

and both situations were completely different then the next, I’m not reporting that I rdm and should be banned it was just simply that I did not rdm.

17 minutes ago, Danny said:

During the Sit Baked Did nothing to Fight his case And Admitted to pretty much everything brought against him. From what I understand the main Point that is being appealed is that Puppy Did dmg to baked first even though he Broke NLR And then Baked Killed him.
When Dming me baked first wanted puppy to be warned for killing him before Obviously as retaliation but Baked admitted before that they was having fun and also there a no logs of it so I refused. He then Said puppy was killing everyone in Bank when he was raiding so he thought it was a joke. I'm Not sure How that is a reason but I once again refused to do anything about that.
He then says I didn't say much in the Sit but I Didn't really have much to say when Baked pretty much admitted to everything and Knew he was going to get banned. then he tells me to go on to check if puppy was raiding longer than 10 minutes ( at this point Clutching at straws for any way out), and at the time of puppy calling a sit it was about 3 minutes into his raid timer. he then asks me to find any logs of puppy killing baked which all in logs show baked instigating it, I assume most kills are by uncanny catgun which doesn't show in logs.
hen after 40 minutes of talking he comes up with that Puppy Shot him first after he broke nlr and that him killing puppy was allowed because he didnt instigate it, To me This Just Seems 1. Like its Completely just a way to get out of a ban after trying multiple other things 2. Like they go hand in hand for this situation, Baked breaks nlr twice and comes back to get shot and then kills puppy for shooting him, I think it is a pretty poor excuse and Shouldnt be allowed to be done like that. 
I will also say that even though baked dosent want me to say That Throughout the entire thing baked Never Denied to me that he had Intent to RDM, One of his points was literally he was having fun... Also I Doubt anyone runs toto bank 3 times getting killed twice then kills the person raiding without intent to actually kill them.

It’s the admins job the check the logs and determine the situation as I cannot see logs and you brought me I assumed you already saw that I did damage first which was not the case so I wasn’t going to fight it until after I found out I was not the one that instigated combat, as when I ran in I was hiding behind a door and was shot which was why I started shooting back,

I also was saying I was just having fun because again a group of players rdm each other constantly, so i assumed I just messed up and took it as it came and wasn’t gonna try to make excuses.

Which I 100% understand the nlr x2 but without me doing damage even 1 out of 3 times why would you assume I was running in there with intention to damage. Unless puppy showed you a clip of me damaging or causing damage first, which would of change the sit completely but without it is based on logs.

I was asking all these questions like how long was he raiding and all this because I was staff at one time and know what to look for to make sure everything was in compliance, just to see if it was a 100% truthful ban.

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In-Game Name: Bakedpotato

SteamID: [https://steamid.io/] STEAM_0:1:23391925

Who Banned You: @Danny @Danny_Mcflurry1 STEAM_0:1:57045839

Proof Of Ban: [SCREENSHOT OF BAN]

Why Should You Be Unbanned: [DESCRIPTIVE PARAGRAPH, EXPLAIN AND USE EVIDENCE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE]

I ran into the bank while it was being raided by puppy, I assumed that he was just fing around because he is also one of thoes players who goes around and kills people constantly, 

So i came back assuming that he wasnt raiding was just hiding in the bank, Which is my fault and i get that I nlrx2  but He instigated the combat on the last one so I should not have been banned for RDM when he was the one that shot me so I reacted with shooting back, as a normal person would. which I shot him with the uncanny cat gun afterwards so he has no death logs from me to begin with, which i will admit i killed him but every time he has instigated the combat

as Puppy was launching fg gernades through the door all the way into the lobby everyone was running into the bank so I was following.

Before danny comes in and says I intended to RDM him, There is no solid proof of that considering when people raid the bank I have been known to run in and hide behind the money, So without be instigating the damage there cant be any assumptions made to begin with. 

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In-Game Name: Bakedpotato

SteamID: [https://steamid.io/] STEAM_0:1:23391925

Who Banned You: @JIMJOB STEAM_0:0:217707721

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I was running around, There was a group of people right outside of spawn near the beach tunnel, I went out and slap sticked a couple and we started shooting each other and laughing,

JimJob was one of the ones in that group, I shot jimjob, and he came back while we were all shooting each other i shot him again, Jimjob and I have killed each other constantly in the past so I figured it was just another day.

Once he returns from his most recent death, He freezes me where I am at immediately warns me and says see you in a day bakedpotato and bans me.

I was never pulled to adminland or told what I did before hand as I figured he was just messing with me. 

He claims that he said, If I get rdm one more time, Which i never herd him say as I may have not been in voice prox, and had no Idea, Where if he would of said in chat or said it personally to me It may have been a different out come. 

Taking into account that I have always went back and fourth with staff with killing each other this is the first problem I have had, and staff seems to enjoy the fun combat as well at times, and when asked to stop I stop.

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Use to you could not shoot through no collided props, Now if they are no collided they can be shot through which is becoming a issue during raiding, If you are not fully out of no collided prop defending your base you can start shooting before even stepping out which is a unfair advantage, But also become a issue with shooting rockets and everything else, even if we loose the raid i still destroyed printers and other entities just because my rockets were going through there no collided props.

+1 Never had any real issues with puppy and seems to understand the rules very well

All right so lets start this off by saying thank you for making the report on the forums as like I directed you,

When I brought you to admin land to explain the situation, you told a little about yours and soon told a little about his then while I started explaining why you can't demote without trying to make a sit first OR, no staff is online soon started talking over me which I said stop and let me explain the rule and moved him away to talk to you privately, Which you started screaming and being rude in your mic saying "LET HIM TALK LET HIM TALK" over and over again, and act like you're going to get a positive reaction from that I gagged you, Explained the rule once more and sent you back and ungagged you

Like I said in the sit, Soon did nothing directly too you and if he arrested your party member in spawn for being wanted you wait till he's outside of spawn and kill him. If it was truly a RDA the proper thing to do is to make a sit, Which you did not Nor did it have anything to do with you. 

After I sent you back with the warn, Rule explained and ungag, You proceeded to complain in /ooc about me being a "bad staff member" because I didn't tolerate players talking over eachother. Your friend made a sit and it went smoothly and I explained the same thing to her and soon was handled the right way in punishment for rda 

It is up to you to read the rules and make sure you understand them, Our job to enforce them, I explained the rule and sent you back, The warn was valid on both ends, If your friend gets rda, rdm, or anyother situations, you do not make the sit for them they make there own sit. Something you have a problem with your friend may not so it's up to your friend to make that decision, EVEN if your friend is afk you can make them aware of the situation when they come back and they can take care of it.

I did not say they he didn't do anything for you to do the demote, But there are proper steps and procedures before using /demote Which you never made a ticket first. If a player is causing issues you try to notify staff first IF IT INVOLVES YOU DIRECTLY. thank you. 

I suggest while your on the forums to go here https://aethernetwork.gg/index.php?/topic/4428-aethernetwork-darkrp-rules/ and check over the forums.

1. Using /demote should only be utilized with a valid reason and when no Staff are available. 
   • Wait at least 10 minutes after creating a ticket before receiving no response and going through this route.

3 minutes ago, bakedpotato said:

Blondee was in charge of his rdm sit I said I’m going to review clips blondee said I’m gonna finish this sit I said alright then blondee left him in admin land said Im gonna go afk for a minute and I said if I get the clip sorted out I’ll issue the punishment. 
 

Here’s proof of the warn that shows blondee finished the sit btw

Just now, Novva said:

again thats not what im saying as soon as he said I want jouaram involved they ended the sit and didnt even take judges rdm sit

Blondee was in charge of his rdm sit I said I’m going to review clips blondee said I’m gonna finish this sit I said alright then blondee left him in admin land said Im gonna go afk for a minute and I said if I get the clip sorted out I’ll issue the punishment. 
 

Ok let me do some corrections, I said why would you say the n word when brought you immediately got quiet, I got mutiple reports of you saying the nword and players complaining, you said you havn't been on the server in a LONG time, I said 2 months ago, you joined the server and got a RDM | RIS  warn from lofi, I said let me see if I have a clip because if the clip is right you will recieve a 1 week ban for racism IMMEDIATELY. You repeated you cannot ban me like that I want jouaram, and said you were ex staff, I said you can message jouaram on discord OR, make a forum complaint if the sit wasn't handled fairly in your eyes. Was not trying to hide anything. I also said im going to review my clips and if it was true what you said I would bring you back and handle the punishment or you would receive the ban, also said let me see if the players who reported had clips as well.

100% this is prop abuse and player needs to be warned and will be handled appropriately thank you for report. I will pass this one to higher up

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Too start off when i claimed a sit against you, you where the mayor and when i teleported to that player you had a blast door blocking the entrance of the mayors office, and there was also a player basing in the vault as a bitcoin miner, There was no keypads/buttons FOR ANY ENTERANCE. You also said in ooc, Bank raids are allowed because the mayors grace period which also isn't allowed, You are still working with pd, And default laws cannot be changed.

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You called a sit with bryan, and explained that you were improperly warned and proceeded to lie about everything to him which logs can show. You didnt place a keypad or button but you did place a blast door. As you complained saying you deleted the door, Here is also proof that I deleted the blast door from you and deleted the bitcoin farmers props as well. 

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I proceeded to spectate you because I was already getting reports of you being toxic, You immediately go back ask for a gun and when @Señor Blondee was beside you, You claimed a player called you the R word Which he did not. Another player said you should report him for that and try to get him in trouble you both laughed and proceeded to make a sit. I took the sit, you claimed the guy called you a R word which I explained I was spectating you and that blondee was also beside you when you made the report, I could hear blondeee while spectating you as well.

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The You called me a bunch of named also telling me to get a life and other toxic behavior which I proceeded to make my decision.

You also Commented Semen Protectors Staff App and told him to go touch grass, and also said in the chat box that the admins in this server never got "beated" enough as a kid, Which @Señor Blondee, @Papa Waffle, @Trem0r all seen as well as me, Then you proceeded to go deleted thoes to make your ban appeal as Blondee, Papa Waffle, and I where waiting on your appeal to pop up, You typed your appeal, Copied it, Went and deleted your toxic behavior on the forums and came back and posted it.

I banned you base on how you were acting and continuing to act, And coming to the forums being toxic shows the ban needs to stay. 

So, Like before during my sit with you I told you to avoid suiciding because you are going to get in trouble as its suiciding to avoid rp, You told me obviously you were doing it to avoid nlr. I told you I was gonna get conformation on it and you proceeded to do it again when I told you not to.

You then got introuble again to and now we are in this situation, Suiciding to Avoid Roleplay is anything that makes the roleplay situation unfair. As I messaged @Jouaram about this issue and was told it was wrong, You got punished in that amount of time. 

I say Appeal Denied.

+1 If you keep your play time up from personal experience I have no issues with you and you tend to be pretty well rounded. If you can stay active I think that would be the real determining  factor. And don't get any warns in the time period.

-1 The stuff you send me was very uncalled for a was sent immediately to @Jouaram and will not be posted here. All NSFW and racism. I have made @Trem0r @Bryan aware of the post and you will not be unbanned at this time. The stuff you sent will take alot to come back from and will not simply be a ban appeal. As I recalled I banned you in game and you immidately dm me things and start saying "you dont care about the server its just a game" and a bunch of other things. Think before sending the things you did. And brave of you to make a ban appeal.

5 hours ago, ThiccYe said:

+1 Acmerica uses it too much

We can just nerf acmerica 

I honestly do thing the hell slinger has a bit of power but isnt technically op, Yes its does a shit ton of damage but, without it being something effective noone would want it. Its one of thoes items that people want really bad but hate when they dont because the damage is used on them, But jouaram has done all he can with nerfs and blocking it from purge and other situations.

With a nerf it would be a regular weapon no one would care for.

+1 I have had no bad experience with this player, Is a joy to be around and doesn't cause any issues and will make sure he calls staff when needed. His answer are good and he has decent playtime I think you would make a great addition to staff team.

5 minutes ago, Jouaram said:

He stated that the sits prior he couldn't take as he was about to crash, this is true you won't be able to use logs or get the information you need as Staff when you're about to crash and get the clientside errors. 

If he directly told you he won't take your sits and ignored them then it's a different story but to my knowledge that didn't happen. 

So for the ignored sits he had a valid reason and for TPing you he had a valid reason. The only thing left is his attitude which I agree he did sound a bit annoyed but the circumstances I would say allow him to at least be slightly annoyed as he was dealing with the player already and you kept asking for a sit he brings you to a sit and you instantly ask to be returned. Pretty frustrating stuff imo. 

I got frustrated more when I was told "Im going to send this to jouaram" As soon as i tried talking to him and didnt send him back, Which isnt in his clip but should be in mine. I will admit once threated get sent to a higher up, I will get frustrated while trying to help the player and not getting any feeed back to actually help. However, In my opinion my attitude didn't effect the outcome of the sit Nor did I say anything uncalled for just voice was "out of tone" Which I could be wrong.

But, When pm'd and when getting sits from the same person it makes it urgent, Then once brought and Treated like no big deal I could be dealing with other sits in the mean time you are fight boss.

And i take full responsibility if I sounded annoyed and will apologize but, I also don't like the fact of being told how and when I should be taking my sits. And questions apon the ability to do so.

1 minute ago, who said:

I want to clarify that the issue at hand is not simply about staff discretion in taking sits, but about the staff member intentionally refusing to send me back after I was teleported during a boss fight he knew I was in and even said himself he knew I was in.

I could understand his confusion in initially teleporting me, but I still see absolutely no reason he had to hold me in a sit that he knew was already complete (the person he warned was who I was reporting, whos name I even mentioned in my original @) I noticed the RDM warning during the boss fight, which prompted me to ask him why he wasnt taking my sits or responding. However, instead of addressing my concerns or acknowledging at all so I atleast knew he was looking into it, he became increasingly irritated and it lead to that situation.

To paraphrase and clarify, he was more than capable of sending me back and then continuing the sit after the boss fight if anything, I hope this is understood. Context and how things went aside, the fact of the matter is I feel I am to be compensated for the rewards that I was denied due to his negligence and refusal to send me back to finish the event. 

I Believe instead of pming me and making sits durning the Antlion boss you could of waited till it was over and then made the report correct? As well as you were obviously bothered by it enough to pm me 2 times after making the reports during the last boss fight before i teleported you. I wasn't going to send you back and recieve more pm saying I'm not doing my job or recieve more reports of the situation.  

I am fully capable with watching players and punishing them and letting you know after the fact, Even though I was taking your sit at the time the punishment was for when I got killed and was beside him which you said happened to you mutiple times but agreed you didnt want the sit anymore therefore the sit was cancled.

39 minutes ago, who said:

Based on your response, it seems like you are trying to shift the blame purely onto me and make excuses for your behavior.

Firstly, it is important to note that as a staff member, it is your responsibility to respond to sit requests in a timely manner, and ignoring them or delaying them in the way you did, is unprofessional and disrespectful to the server and your position. It is not acceptable to ignore sit requests and then use the excuse of "staff discretion" as a means of justifying your behavior.

Furthermore, it is clear from the timeline that you intentionally ignored my sit request and PMs, and instead chose to mess around with your camera and take snapshots of random spots around the bank. Your behavior is unprofessional and immature under these circumstances, and does not reflect well.

Regarding the boss fight, I had already spent 2.5kab on it and have a right to complete it without interruptions, especially considering in the video you admit to spectating and seeing the fight was active, ontop of being verbally indicated during the sit that it was active and I needed to be sent back asap. It was not fair for you to teleport me in the middle of the fight and then refuse to send them back ontop of that, especially considering that I had already lost out on my rewards due to your actions.

Lastly, your comment about your tone of voice being irritated 90% of the time is not a valid excuse for your behavior. As a staff member, it is important to maintain a professional and respectful demeanor at all times, even when dealing with frustrating situations. That is your responsibility.

In summary, it is clear from my point of view that you intentionally ignored my sit request and then proceeded to disrupt my gameplay by teleporting me in the middle of a boss fight and refusing to send me back ontop of your disrespectful behavior, which makes me and i'm sure anyone else who'd be treated like I was feel very unwelcomed in the server, when it's coming from an admin. Your behavior was unprofessional, immature, and disrespectful, plain and simple.

As staff members also enjoy rp We are not required to take sits 100% of the time when they pop up, If a sits not being taken right away you can report it on the forums just like here vs pming the staff member and making mutiple sits, 

And seeing you have clipping software that does wonders as well during sits and can be used to your advantage in player reports.

But, I am not pointing fingers trying to make you look bad, I am explaining my side when. I treat all players the same No matter what outcome.

As it is staff discression to take sits or not, When I first started jumping around is when your sit popped up, and I was unable to take it. You continue to follow me around pm me and make multiple sits. I Leave the server to reset my pc because of lag due to my pc being on all day. 

I Went to the boss fight when who was there and got shot by a rocket launcher and teleported the guy and delt with the situation accordingly which was a player named snake shooting rockets at the antlion and killing the players around him.

I then receive more sits coming up right when the rocket got shot and multiple pms again. So, I teleported who, and told him I will deal with the sit, As he screams "SEND ME BACK", "ANTLION" and I proceed to tell him if you are going to constantly make sits and pm me I am going to take your sits when its coinvent for me not for you, Especially when you constantly pm me complaining about me not taking the sit in the first place. Nor make the sit and pm me during the antlion boss if you don't want it handled at that time. If you got time to pm me about it you got time to handle the sit, As you proceed with I don't want it no more send me back Is your decression.

I also have a full clip of everything that went down as well to my knowledge for anyone involved that would like to see it I cant upload 5 minute clips.

And me sounding irritated is how I talk 90% of the time. and this is the only complaint about it to my knowledge

It is the staff decision to take your sit at that current time as we are regular players and well. If we are not responding it doesn't mean spam them and constantly. 

On top of any player that is going to say "give me 2.5k ab or im reporting you to jouaram" Is not going to blackmail me nor negotiate anymore I stand behind my decision and If there is a issue @Jouaram @ThiccYe or @Trem0r will let me know what I did wrong and how to correct it. I am not going to be blackmailed over a sit. 

On top of this this is not the full clip, So the whole interaction with you wasn't even there. You can see by the screen shots him making sits while still fighting the boss. Spamming bossfight over and over in the first situation when you made the sit as soon as he shot you which was not 30 minutes to this interaction, You made mutiple sits your first sit may have been 30minutes ago the one I delt with was not.

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